tooltips don't show on own ETI file

[jpuigs]

I've created an ETI file mux with ODR-DabMux, it is a generated from a 48 KHz .wav file , and encoded 5 times at different modes and bitrates.
When I open it in Dablin, I can hear the 5 programes correctly, but the tooltips showing language, short label, program type... doesn't show until file has reached end.

When file ends...

If I record satellite .eti streams, they always show tooltips during all playing time.
What may be doing wrong ?

general {
dabmode 1
nbframes 8000
}

ensemble {
id 0xe123
ecc 0xe2 ; Extended Country Code
local-time-offset auto
international-table 1
label "TestMux DAB/DAB+"
shortlabel "TestMux"
}

services {
serv-1 { id 0xE2D1 pty 10 pty-sd static language 3 label "256 DAB Joint" shortlabel "256 DABJ"}
serv-2 { id 0xE2D2 pty 10 pty-sd static language 3 label "128 DAB Joint" shortlabel "128 DABJ"}
serv-3 { id 0xE2D3 pty 10 pty-sd static language 3 label "160 DAB+ AAC-LC" shortlabel "160 D+LC"}
serv-4 { id 0xE2D4 pty 10 pty-sd static language 3 label "96 DAB+ HE-AACv1" shortlabel "96 D+ v1"}
serv-5 { id 0xE2D5 pty 10 pty-sd static language 3 label "40 DAB+ HE-AACv2" shortlabel "40 D+ v2"}
}

subchannels {
sub-1 {
type audio
inputfile "prog1.mp2"
bitrate 256
id 4
protection 3
}
sub-2 {
type audio
inputfile "prog2.mp2"
bitrate 128
id 5
protection 3
}
sub-3 {
type dabplus
inputfile "prog3.dabp"
bitrate 160
id 6
protection 3
}
sub-4 {
type dabplus
inputfile "prog4.dabp"
bitrate 96
id 7
protection 3
}
sub-5 {
type dabplus
inputfile "prog5.dabp"
bitrate 40
id 8
protection 3
}
}

components {
comp-1 { service serv-1 subchannel sub-1 }
comp-2 { service serv-2 subchannel sub-2 }
comp-3 { service serv-3 subchannel sub-3 }
comp-4 { service serv-4 subchannel sub-4 }
comp-5 { service serv-5 subchannel sub-5 }
}

outputs { output1 "file://testmux.eti?type=raw" }

[basicmaster]

Hmm, the tooltips should be visible despite the source.
Could you provide your ETI file (maybe a shorter sample with which the issue can still be reproduced)?

[jpuigs]

Here you have a 3 minute eti file.

https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/6c2a79ee-a453-430d-bd17-8b4f2f44acdc

This is not the one I showed config on first post.
It's a 2 programme mux, with DLS and SLS enabled.

If I play this mux live, either in edi or eti format, $ nc 127.0.0.1 9201 | dablin_gtk (-f edi when necessary) , tooltips never appear, because it has no end.....

[andimik]

Yes, this is strange, I've even prepared a raw file with ODR-DabMod and then converted back to eti using Jan's eti-cmdline, but I still cannot see the tooltips.

[basicmaster]

It turns out that date/time in the ETI file is transmitted very often i.e. 25 times per second. As DABlin shows the last synced date/time in a tooltip of the date/time label, this tooltip also gets updated everytime a new timestamp arrives. Apparently this GUI operation prevents displaying any tooltips at all.

The fix limits this to update the last synced date/time only (up to) every second. This way the tooltips should also work with your ETI file; please check if this is the case on your side as well, @jpuigs.

@mpbraendli there have been adjustments to the FIC carousel in ODR-DabMux recently. I'm not sure whether the transmission of FIG 0/10 also has been modified; it would definitely make sense to lower the repetition rate here (if possible).

[jpuigs]

The fix limits this to update the last synced date/time only (up to) every second. This way the tooltips should also work with your ETI file; please check if this is the case on your side as well, @jpuigs.

Yes, it works. 👍

[mpbraendli]

@mpbraendli there have been adjustments to the FIC carousel in ODR-DabMux recently. I'm not sure whether the transmission of FIG 0/10 also has been modified; it would definitely make sense to lower the repetition rate here (if possible).

Yes, with the latest carousel adjustments in ODR-DabMux, the rate of 0/10 is a bit lower. However, since ODR-DabMux does not insert any FIC padding, if you have few services, you'll get higher rates for all FIGs. The spec doesn't (to my knowledge) specify a maximum allowed repetition rate.

[basicmaster]

EN 300 401 (since major version 2) states in 8.1.3.1:

The FIG 0/10 has a repetition rate of once per second.

....which apparently is neither a "shall" nor a maximum. So there is indeed no spec requirement at all.